[rescue] Saved this Ultra 10 from Central Mich U Surplus Sale

[PhreakShow Telephone Company]

Went out to the CMU surplus sale last week looking for a fridge and
some other computers.

Saw this lone Sun Ultra 10 sitting in the back under a pile of LCD
monitors. Got it for 10 bucks. Brought her home.

384MB RAM in it. CD Drive was dead, I put in a IDE DVD ROM, and a
250gb hdd i had laying around

Threw solaris 10 on it and shes up and running. Albeit very slow.


Hopefully someday i can get my SS5 working and then netboot these 2
off the E3500

https://imgur.com/lEPunUu
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[Phil Stracchino]

Post by PhreakShow Telephone Company
Went out to the CMU surplus sale last week looking for a fridge and
some other computers.
Saw this lone Sun Ultra 10 sitting in the back under a pile of LCD
monitors. Got it for 10 bucks. Brought her home.
384MB RAM in it. CD Drive was dead, I put in a IDE DVD ROM, and a
250gb hdd i had laying around
Threw solaris 10 on it and shes up and running. Albeit very slow.

You might want to try installing a separate IDE controller. The onboard
IDE controller in the Ultra 10 is terrible, it's a known performance
problem.

Better yet, if you're running Solaris 10, try a SATA controller instead.

[Lionel Peterson]

SATA? I remember stuffing SCSI controllers in these, but not SATA - any
known-good SATA cards?

Lionel

Post by Phil Stracchino
Better yet, if you're running Solaris 10, try a SATA controller instead.

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[William Barnett-Lewis]

We went around on that when I inquired a couple of months back about
SATA for my SunBlade 2500. My decision was to stick to SCSI instead.
You should be able to find the discussion in the archives.

Post by Lionel Peterson
SATA? I remember stuffing SCSI controllers in these, but not SATA - any
known-good SATA cards?
Lionel

Post by Phil Stracchino
Better yet, if you're running Solaris 10, try a SATA controller instead.

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[Jerry Kemp]

I have them on my personal archive.

Not that I have spent a significant sum, but I have purchased several SATA
controllers, and have not had luck yet on SPARC base systems.

I'm up for another round of this if everyone else is.

If someone has a HDD controller in their SPARC system, with SATA drives
*successfully* hanging off of it, please share.

Jerry

Post by William Barnett-Lewis
We went around on that when I inquired a couple of months back about
SATA for my SunBlade 2500. My decision was to stick to SCSI instead.
You should be able to find the discussion in the archives.

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[Kevin Bowling]

Have you tried an SAS1068? You can upload fcode using lsiutil
https://gist.github.com/gima/018f789d74a3c4754014

Post by Jerry Kemp
I have them on my personal archive.
Not that I have spent a significant sum, but I have purchased several SATA
controllers, and have not had luck yet on SPARC base systems.
I'm up for another round of this if everyone else is.
If someone has a HDD controller in their SPARC system, with SATA drives
*successfully* hanging off of it, please share.
Jerry

Post by William Barnett-Lewis
We went around on that when I inquired a couple of months back about
SATA for my SunBlade 2500. My decision was to stick to SCSI instead.
You should be able to find the discussion in the archives.

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[Phil Stracchino]

Post by William Barnett-Lewis
We went around on that when I inquired a couple of months back about
SATA for my SunBlade 2500. My decision was to stick to SCSI instead.
You should be able to find the discussion in the archives.

You're probably right, SCSI controllers are probably a much *better
known* way to go if you can find a compatible SCSI controller. I
haven't ever tried adding a SATA controller into a SPARC system. The
problem with the SCSI route is that parallel-SCSI drives are all but
unobtainable these days except used or reconditioned. And you know any
reconditioned drive has already failed at least once...

[Peter Stokes]

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Post by Phil Stracchino

Post by PhreakShow Telephone Company
Went out to the CMU surplus sale last week looking for a fridge and
some other computers.
Saw this lone Sun Ultra 10 sitting in the back under a pile of LCD
monitors. Got it for 10 bucks. Brought her home.
384MB RAM in it. CD Drive was dead, I put in a IDE DVD ROM, and a
250gb hdd i had laying around
Threw solaris 10 on it and shes up and running. Albeit very slow.

You might want to try installing a separate IDE controller. The onboard
IDE controller in the Ultra 10 is terrible, it's a known performance
problem.
Better yet, if you're running Solaris 10, try a SATA controller instead.

No knowledge of SATA solution other than the external Sun controller they used
on x86 systems, but noticed you added a 250gb, out of interest what capacity
did it show up with as the IDE controller has issues with drives over 120GB
due to early IDE spec? A lot of large disks show up as odd sizes due to this.

Peter
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[Jerry Kemp]

Please note, this is/was for personal stuff only.

Early 2000/01/02 maybe, I ran an Ultra 10 as a server in a COLO.

The one thing I did, that made all the (performance) difference in the world,
was to yank all the IDE stuff out.

I had (2) SCSI controllers installed, one controller per drive.

Performance was night-and-day difference. I'm fully aware of where the Ultra
5/Ultra 10 systems were on the Sun food chain, back when they were relevant.

The Ultra 5/10 systems were very much IO bound, and if you have any plans of
using this box in an interactive manner, I can not recommend this approach
highly enough.

OTOH, in our current day and age, and given the lack of a workable SATA
controller for SPARC, I would be interested in seeing the SCSI controller,
attached to a SCSI->SATA adapter, terminated by a fast SSD.

Congrats on your find, and thanks for saving another Sun box from destruction.

Jerry

Post by PhreakShow Telephone Company
Went out to the CMU surplus sale last week looking for a fridge and
some other computers.
Saw this lone Sun Ultra 10 sitting in the back under a pile of LCD
monitors. Got it for 10 bucks. Brought her home.
384MB RAM in it. CD Drive was dead, I put in a IDE DVD ROM, and a
250gb hdd i had laying around
Threw solaris 10 on it and shes up and running. Albeit very slow.
Hopefully someday i can get my SS5 working and then netboot these 2
off the E3500
https://imgur.com/lEPunUu
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[Jonathan Sturges]

Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 22:27:54 -0700
From: Kevin Bowling <***@kev009.com>
Subject: Re: [rescue] SATA on SPARC systems ::WAS:::::Re: Saved this
B B B Ultra 10 from Central Mich U Surplus Sale

Have you tried an SAS1068?B You can upload fcode using lsiutil
https://gist.github.com/gima/018f789d74a3c4754014

The SAS1064 & SAS1068 are supported.B The driver man page says it doesn't
support port expanders, but I believe they work anyway.B I found one of these
cards on eBay for cheap and have it in my V240:

ISILON Systems LSI Logic 12 Port SATA/SAS RAID Controller Card 405-0004-05

You can't create hardware RAID volumes with lsiutil, but it's great for ZFS
pools.
-Jonathan
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