[rescue] Sun 3/50 BTW (and Sun 2 keyboard)

[Earl Baugh]

Two things from recent posts...

First, the Sun 2 keyboard -- Those are definitely made from unobtainium.
I've been looking for one for over 10 years
(only took me 8 years to find a front panel for my 2/120) . So I doubt it
will be easy to source. Heck, I have spare Sun 1 boards
that I've offered with no responses. I've had 2 Sun 1/100's in my
possession (still have one...with drive unit... that boots) but never
a 2 Keyboard. I know where one is, but the only thing they'd trade for is
a Sun 1 keyboard (no spares there...)

Second, I have a 3/50 Clearpoint memory upgrade board, in what looks like
semi-new-in-box condition. I got it when I got all the Sun 1 gear I got.
I don't plan on getting a 3/50

(I have 3/110, a 4/110 a 2/120 and the 1/100) since the BW monitor issue
is definitely a point with these
machines. My 3/110 I have the 3 BNC to 13w3, then to VGA which works with
semi-new monitors... so I have solutions for the 3/110 and
4/110. The 1/100 I have a good tube/monitor, so no issues there either. )

ANYWAY, if there is a 3/50 collector out there who could use this, ping me.
(I wouldn't turn down any trades, but really not looking to make $$ on
this... just to get it to a better home)

Earl
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[Stefan Skoglund]

I'm one of those - in my cellar is a 2/120 with:Kbd Rat Bw (ecl?)
Monitor (orig packaging)4 mb memEsdi interfaceSmd
And not really for sale....
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[Ian Finder]

Post by Stefan Skoglund
I'm one of those - in my cellar is a 2/120 with:Kbd Rat Bw (ecl?)
Monitor (orig packaging)4 mb memEsdi interfaceSmd
And not really for sale....

Stefan, my most sincere congratulations, and above all thank you for this
valuable information.

Earl, et. al, a few questions-

1) Can the 1600x1200 Sun B&W ECL monitor, which is what I appear to have,
work with the Sun 2/120
2) Does anyone know common causes for the monitor in (1) to dim?
3) Does anyone have the pinouts for the mythical type 2 <-> type 3 keyboard
& mouse passive adapter? I would like to construct one.
4) Does anyone have a spare VME framebuffer for a 3/260, and a spare sun 3
mouse?
5) What's the best way to do a SunOS 3 install without employing the use of
a tape drive?

After a quick fuse replacement, my 3/260 is up-and-running.

Also, Earl, I have two 3/50s and might be interested in any ephemera you
have for them.

Thanks,

- Ian
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[Jon]

Post by Ian Finder
Earl, et. al, a few questions-
1) Can the 1600x1200 Sun B&W ECL monitor, which is what I appear to have,
work with the Sun 2/120

Hello,

It should work with at least one of the monochrome Sun 2/120 framebuffers.
The Sun Hardware Reference ( http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref3.html )
says the 501-1003 only supports TTL but I don't believe this is true
because I
have that board and it can be jumpered for either TTL or ECL.
Don't know about the 501-1052 board the reference claims supports both
TTL and ECL. Maybe that's true or maybe they mixed up the two?

2) Does anyone know common causes for the monitor in (1) to dim?

Post by Ian Finder
3) Does anyone have the pinouts for the mythical type 2 <-> type 3 keyboard
& mouse passive adapter? I would like to construct one.

Since I'm in the same situation as you regarding a severe lack of type-2
keyboard I'm planning on doing this as well.
No pinout for the official adapter, but the pinout for the 501-1003 board
can be
found in the schematics in the engineering manual at:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/sun/sun2/800-1187-01_2-120_Video_Board_Engr_Sep84.pdf
Page 19, connectors J1900 & J1901. Pinout for type-3 can be found at:
http://www.hardwarebook.info/SUN_Keyboard/Mouse

Post by Ian Finder
4) Does anyone have a spare VME framebuffer for a 3/260, and a spare sun 3
mouse?
5) What's the best way to do a SunOS 3 install without employing the use of
a tape drive?

If you have the SCSI board, I would try to hook up a SCSI drive to another
Sun machine (probably a sun-3 with Sun UNIX 3.x because the filesystem
might have changed) and get the miniroot etc onto the drive from there and
then move the drive back try to boot and install.
I don't have the SCSI board (it seems to be very rare indeed) but I do have
a Xylogics 450(?) board to interface with an SMD drive.

I suppose the above scheme would work with an SMD drive as well as long
as you have another Sun machine with SMD support, which I don't.
But I do have an ethernet board so I've been unsuccessfully trying to do a
network install. Something goes wrong very early and I can't even get the
diag to transfer beyond a few bytes.
The problem could either be with the sun-2 ethernet board or, as I'm hoping,
something wrong with the netbsd/modern network I'm trying to boot from.
My current plan is to get a Sunos3 installation (need ND support to netboot
sun 2/120, support removed in 4.x!) onto one of my sun-3 machines and
maybe that will work better for netbooting since age difference is much
less...

Lastly (might as well take this chance to beg), I only have 1MB of RAM in
my sun-2 which restricts me to running only Sun's 1.x releases (and with
a shoehorn), if I ever get past the install issue.
Guess no one happens to have some spare RAM board they're willing to
let go to a good home? With compensation? ^_^

- Jon
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[Ian Finder]

Jon, thanks for the response.

I too have the switchable ECL / TTL framebuffer in my 2/120. I was,
however, under the impression that the resolution wouldn't work for the
1600x1200 display. Perhaps the ECL sun display can multisync? This is kind
of what I was getting at. I thought the 2 was 1152xSomething resolution.
Could be wrong...

Cheers,

- Ian

Post by Jon

Post by Ian Finder
Earl, et. al, a few questions-
1) Can the 1600x1200 Sun B&W ECL monitor, which is what I appear to have,
work with the Sun 2/120

Hello,
It should work with at least one of the monochrome Sun 2/120 framebuffers.
The Sun Hardware Reference ( http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref3.html )
says the 501-1003 only supports TTL but I don't believe this is true
because I
have that board and it can be jumpered for either TTL or ECL.
Don't know about the 501-1052 board the reference claims supports both
TTL and ECL. Maybe that's true or maybe they mixed up the two?
2) Does anyone know common causes for the monitor in (1) to dim?

Post by Ian Finder
3) Does anyone have the pinouts for the mythical type 2 <-> type 3

keyboard

Post by Ian Finder
& mouse passive adapter? I would like to construct one.

Since I'm in the same situation as you regarding a severe lack of type-2
keyboard I'm planning on doing this as well.
No pinout for the official adapter, but the pinout for the 501-1003 board
can be
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/sun/sun2/800-1187-01_2-120_Video_
Board_Engr_Sep84.pdf
http://www.hardwarebook.info/SUN_Keyboard/Mouse

Post by Ian Finder
4) Does anyone have a spare VME framebuffer for a 3/260, and a spare sun

3

Post by Ian Finder
mouse?
5) What's the best way to do a SunOS 3 install without employing the use

of

Post by Ian Finder
a tape drive?

If you have the SCSI board, I would try to hook up a SCSI drive to another
Sun machine (probably a sun-3 with Sun UNIX 3.x because the filesystem
might have changed) and get the miniroot etc onto the drive from there and
then move the drive back try to boot and install.
I don't have the SCSI board (it seems to be very rare indeed) but I do have
a Xylogics 450(?) board to interface with an SMD drive.
I suppose the above scheme would work with an SMD drive as well as long
as you have another Sun machine with SMD support, which I don't.
But I do have an ethernet board so I've been unsuccessfully trying to do a
network install. Something goes wrong very early and I can't even get the
diag to transfer beyond a few bytes.
The problem could either be with the sun-2 ethernet board or, as I'm hoping,
something wrong with the netbsd/modern network I'm trying to boot from.
My current plan is to get a Sunos3 installation (need ND support to netboot
sun 2/120, support removed in 4.x!) onto one of my sun-3 machines and
maybe that will work better for netbooting since age difference is much
less...
Lastly (might as well take this chance to beg), I only have 1MB of RAM in
my sun-2 which restricts me to running only Sun's 1.x releases (and with
a shoehorn), if I ever get past the install issue.
Guess no one happens to have some spare RAM board they're willing to
let go to a good home? With compensation? ^_^
- Jon
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[Jon]

Post by Ian Finder
Jon, thanks for the response.
I too have the switchable ECL / TTL framebuffer in my 2/120. I was,
however, under the impression that the resolution wouldn't work for the
1600x1200 display. Perhaps the ECL sun display can multisync? This is kind
of what I was getting at. I thought the 2 was 1152xSomething resolution.
Could be wrong...

Sorry, yes you're right, the resolution is 1152x900 or 1024x1024.
No idea if the monitor will accept that.

- Jon
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[Chris Hanson]

Post by Jon
Lastly (might as well take this chance to beg), I only have 1MB of RAM in
my sun-2 which restricts me to running only Sun's 1.x releases (and with
a shoehorn), if I ever get past the install issue.
Guess no one happens to have some spare RAM board they're willing to
let go to a good home? With compensation? ^_^

Have you considered making one? Either one that you can mount old SIMMs to, or
one using a couple of modern static RAM chips to max out the capacity with
some trivial interfacing? Ibm pretty sure complete expansion information is
available for Sun 2b&

Oshpark can take KiCAD files directly now, too, you donbt even need to
generate a Gerber file for making your own PCBsb&

b Chris
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[Jon]

Post by Chris Hanson

Post by Jon
Lastly (might as well take this chance to beg), I only have 1MB of RAM in
my sun-2 which restricts me to running only Sun's 1.x releases (and with
a shoehorn), if I ever get past the install issue.
Guess no one happens to have some spare RAM board they're willing to
let go to a good home? With compensation? ^_^

Have you considered making one? Either one that you can mount old SIMMs to, or
one using a couple of modern static RAM chips to max out the capacity with
some trivial interfacing? Ib m pretty sure complete expansion information
is
available for Sun 2b&
Oshpark can take KiCAD files directly now, too, you donb t even need to
generate a Gerber file for making your own PCBsb&

Actually, the thought has crossed my mind, and I was even contemplating
doing a whole sun-2 CPU board before, when I was desperate and the CPU
was my main missing item (my Sun 2/120 is a real frankensteiner, made up
of parts from all over the place!)
The problem is that I mostly dream about these things, but I have so many
projects sucking up my time that few if any ever make it to the finish
line.
I think I even started on the schematics for a RAM board in Altium, but I
haven't started that program in, like, a year...
Would anyone else be interested in such a newfangled RAM board, or do
folks prefer the old genuine stuff?

- Jon
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[Dave McGuire]

Post by Jon
I think I even started on the schematics for a RAM board in Altium, but I
haven't started that program in, like, a year...
Would anyone else be interested in such a newfangled RAM board, or do
folks prefer the old genuine stuff?

I'd definitely be interested in a couple.

-Dave

[Jon]

Post by Dave McGuire

Post by Jon
I think I even started on the schematics for a RAM board in Altium, but I
haven't started that program in, like, a year...
Would anyone else be interested in such a newfangled RAM board, or do
folks prefer the old genuine stuff?

I'd definitely be interested in a couple.
-Dave

Cool! Maybe that'll give me the motivation to actually finish it, but I
can make no promises!
Hmm, gotta see if we still have some valid licenses for altium..

Post by Dave McGuire
I wrote a simple ND server ( https://github.com/senjan/ndd ) which I'm
using to boot my 3/50 (running SunOS 3.5) from my Solaris 11.3 box
but it should work on Linux too. It's a bit hacky but it works pretty
reliably for me, even swapping and dumping seem to work fine.

I will check that out. I've been using the ND-server from the NetBSD
sun-2 port (without success).

- Jon
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[u***@centrum.cz]

Post by Jon

Post by Ian Finder
Earl, et. al, a few questions-
1) Can the 1600x1200 Sun B&W ECL monitor, which is what I appear to have,
work with the Sun 2/120

Hello,
It should work with at least one of the monochrome Sun 2/120 framebuffers.
The Sun Hardware Reference ( http://www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref3.html )
says the 501-1003 only supports TTL but I don't believe this is true
because I
have that board and it can be jumpered for either TTL or ECL.
Don't know about the 501-1052 board the reference claims supports both
TTL and ECL. Maybe that's true or maybe they mixed up the two?
2) Does anyone know common causes for the monitor in (1) to dim?

Post by Ian Finder
3) Does anyone have the pinouts for the mythical type 2 <-> type 3 keyboard
& mouse passive adapter? I would like to construct one.

Since I'm in the same situation as you regarding a severe lack of type-2
keyboard I'm planning on doing this as well.
No pinout for the official adapter, but the pinout for the 501-1003 board
can be
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/sun/sun2/800-1187-01_2-120_Video_Board_Engr_Sep84.pdf
http://www.hardwarebook.info/SUN_Keyboard/Mouse

Post by Ian Finder
4) Does anyone have a spare VME framebuffer for a 3/260, and a spare sun 3
mouse?
5) What's the best way to do a SunOS 3 install without employing the use of
a tape drive?

If you have the SCSI board, I would try to hook up a SCSI drive to another
Sun machine (probably a sun-3 with Sun UNIX 3.x because the filesystem
might have changed) and get the miniroot etc onto the drive from there and
then move the drive back try to boot and install.
I don't have the SCSI board (it seems to be very rare indeed) but I do have
a Xylogics 450(?) board to interface with an SMD drive.
I suppose the above scheme would work with an SMD drive as well as long
as you have another Sun machine with SMD support, which I don't.
But I do have an ethernet board so I've been unsuccessfully trying to do a
network install. Something goes wrong very early and I can't even get the
diag to transfer beyond a few bytes.
The problem could either be with the sun-2 ethernet board or, as I'm hoping,
something wrong with the netbsd/modern network I'm trying to boot from.
My current plan is to get a Sunos3 installation (need ND support to netboot
sun 2/120, support removed in 4.x!) onto one of my sun-3 machines and
maybe that will work better for netbooting since age difference is much
less...

I wrote a simple ND server ( https://github.com/senjan/ndd ) which I'm
using to boot my 3/50 (running SunOS 3.5) from my Solaris 11.3 box but
it should work on Linux too. It's a bit hacky but it works pretty
reliably for me, even swapping and dumping seem to work fine.

J.

Post by Jon
Lastly (might as well take this chance to beg), I only have 1MB of RAM in
my sun-2 which restricts me to running only Sun's 1.x releases (and with
a shoehorn), if I ever get past the install issue.
Guess no one happens to have some spare RAM board they're willing to
let go to a good home? With compensation? ^_^
- Jon
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[Peter Stokes]

Hi

The dimming is normally due to a build up of crap in the tube, for want of a
technical term.....

Back in the day we 'refreshed' 100s of these old Sun mono/greyscale monitors
and I still have the kit, not been used in a long time, but if anyone can make
use of it, cost of postage is all I would ask for it. The results can be quite
amazing in brightness and focus though no idea if it shortened the life of the
tube. You can use it on colour tubes, but then you are faced with rebalancing
the colours which is non trivial and hence we never used it for that.

Peter



Sent from my iPad

Post by Ian Finder

Post by Stefan Skoglund
I'm one of those - in my cellar is a 2/120 with:Kbd Rat Bw (ecl?)
Monitor (orig packaging)4 mb memEsdi interfaceSmd
And not really for sale....

Stefan, my most sincere congratulations, and above all thank you for this
valuable information.
Earl, et. al, a few questions-
1) Can the 1600x1200 Sun B&W ECL monitor, which is what I appear to have,
work with the Sun 2/120
2) Does anyone know common causes for the monitor in (1) to dim?
3) Does anyone have the pinouts for the mythical type 2 <-> type 3 keyboard
& mouse passive adapter? I would like to construct one.
4) Does anyone have a spare VME framebuffer for a 3/260, and a spare sun 3
mouse?
5) What's the best way to do a SunOS 3 install without employing the use of
a tape drive?
After a quick fuse replacement, my 3/260 is up-and-running.
Also, Earl, I have two 3/50s and might be interested in any ephemera you
have for them.
Thanks,
- Ian
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[Ian Finder]

Hi Peter,

So it is the typical oxidation problem on the cathode?
OK, I think I know someone local with a CRT rejuvenator. I'll give that a
go.

And I've learned this ECL display will be forever destined for the Sun
3/260 (at 1600x1200) as it is indeed single-sync. Bummer.

Still, for the 2/120 I have two video options:
1) I have some sort of Extron ECL video converter in the garage, I'll take
a closer look at this once the keyboard and mouse arrive (thanks, kind list
member!) and report back.
2) Failing that, I can switch the framebuffer to TTL and rig up my own
adapter.

I have plenty of (color) monitors that will handle the resolution and
timings in question- and I'm quite pleased to have found the requisite
matching input devices. :)
Perhaps the correct monitor will turn up eventually...

- Ian

Post by Peter Stokes
Hi
The dimming is normally due to a build up of crap in the tube, for want of a
technical term.....
Back in the day we 'refreshed' 100s of these old Sun mono/greyscale monitors
and I still have the kit, not been used in a long time, but if anyone can make
use of it, cost of postage is all I would ask for it. The results can be quite
amazing in brightness and focus though no idea if it shortened the life of the
tube. You can use it on colour tubes, but then you are faced with rebalancing
the colours which is non trivial and hence we never used it for that.
Peter
Sent from my iPad

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Stefan Skoglund <

Post by Stefan Skoglund
I'm one of those - in my cellar is a 2/120 with:Kbd Rat Bw (ecl?)
Monitor (orig packaging)4 mb memEsdi interfaceSmd
And not really for sale....

Stefan, my most sincere congratulations, and above all thank you for this
valuable information.
Earl, et. al, a few questions-
1) Can the 1600x1200 Sun B&W ECL monitor, which is what I appear to have,
work with the Sun 2/120
2) Does anyone know common causes for the monitor in (1) to dim?
3) Does anyone have the pinouts for the mythical type 2 <-> type 3

keyboard

& mouse passive adapter? I would like to construct one.
4) Does anyone have a spare VME framebuffer for a 3/260, and a spare sun

3

mouse?
5) What's the best way to do a SunOS 3 install without employing the use

of

a tape drive?
After a quick fuse replacement, my 3/260 is up-and-running.
Also, Earl, I have two 3/50s and might be interested in any ephemera you
have for them.
Thanks,
- Ian
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[Matt Patoray]

Sent from my iPhone

Post by Ian Finder
Hi Peter,
So it is the typical oxidation problem on the cathode?
OK, I think I know someone local with a CRT rejuvenator. I'll give that a
go.

Yes it is a common thing to happen to old display tubes that sit around, some
bcome upb ok on their own after being used for half an hour or so, some do
not and need a little love tap from a rejuvenator.

If you are going to use a rejuvenator, try and get ahold of a Sencore CR-70 or
CR-7000. They are much gentler on the tube then the B&K rejuvenators.

Before you rejuvenate, make sure you test the CRT completely to make sure
there are no shorts of any type.

Also be careful when removing the connector on the CRT base, monochrome
CRTbs have really thin glass at the neck and it is not hard to break. And
once a CRT reaches atmospheric pressure there is currently nothing that can be
done to repair it. But there is a group in Columbus Ohio that is working on
setting up a CRT rebuilding operation.

Matt

Post by Ian Finder
And I've learned this ECL display will be forever destined for the Sun
3/260 (at 1600x1200) as it is indeed single-sync. Bummer.
1) I have some sort of Extron ECL video converter in the garage, I'll take
a closer look at this once the keyboard and mouse arrive (thanks, kind list
member!) and report back.
2) Failing that, I can switch the framebuffer to TTL and rig up my own
adapter.
I have plenty of (color) monitors that will handle the resolution and
timings in question- and I'm quite pleased to have found the requisite
matching input devices. :)
Perhaps the correct monitor will turn up eventually...
- Ian

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[John Hudak]

The group that has been learning to rebuild CRTs is the Early Television
Org, located in Hillard, OH.
Here is a link that describes the process and their efforts to implement
the process.
http://www.earlytelevision.org/crt_rebuild.html
It is not clear if they offer the service outside of the organization.
John

Post by Matt Patoray
Sent from my iPhone

Post by Ian Finder
Hi Peter,
So it is the typical oxidation problem on the cathode?
OK, I think I know someone local with a CRT rejuvenator. I'll give that a
go.

Yes it is a common thing to happen to old display tubes that sit around, some
b come upb ok on their own after being used for half an hour or so, some
do
not and need a little love tap from a rejuvenator.
If you are going to use a rejuvenator, try and get ahold of a Sencore CR-70 or
CR-7000. They are much gentler on the tube then the B&K rejuvenators.
Before you rejuvenate, make sure you test the CRT completely to make sure
there are no shorts of any type.
Also be careful when removing the connector on the CRT base, monochrome
CRTb s have really thin glass at the neck and it is not hard to break. And
once a CRT reaches atmospheric pressure there is currently nothing that can be
done to repair it. But there is a group in Columbus Ohio that is working on
setting up a CRT rebuilding operation.
Matt

Post by Ian Finder
And I've learned this ECL display will be forever destined for the Sun
3/260 (at 1600x1200) as it is indeed single-sync. Bummer.
1) I have some sort of Extron ECL video converter in the garage, I'll

take

Post by Ian Finder
a closer look at this once the keyboard and mouse arrive (thanks, kind

list

Post by Ian Finder
member!) and report back.
2) Failing that, I can switch the framebuffer to TTL and rig up my own
adapter.
I have plenty of (color) monitors that will handle the resolution and
timings in question- and I'm quite pleased to have found the requisite
matching input devices. :)
Perhaps the correct monitor will turn up eventually...
- Ian

_______________________________________________
rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue

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[Matt Patoray]

Sent from my iPhone

Post by John Hudak
The group that has been learning to rebuild CRTs is the Early Television
Org, located in Hillard, OH.
Here is a link that describes the process and their efforts to implement
the process.
http://www.earlytelevision.org/crt_rebuild.html
It is not clear if they offer the service outside of the organization.
John

At the moment they do not, but they are hoping to soon offer services to other
than the group.
We will know more about the efforts after the yearly convention in May.

Post by John Hudak

Post by Matt Patoray
Sent from my iPhone

Post by Ian Finder
Hi Peter,
So it is the typical oxidation problem on the cathode?
OK, I think I know someone local with a CRT rejuvenator. I'll give that a
go.

Yes it is a common thing to happen to old display tubes that sit around, some
b come upb ok on their own after being used for half an hour or so, some
do
not and need a little love tap from a rejuvenator.
If you are going to use a rejuvenator, try and get ahold of a Sencore CR-70 or
CR-7000. They are much gentler on the tube then the B&K rejuvenators.
Before you rejuvenate, make sure you test the CRT completely to make sure
there are no shorts of any type.
Also be careful when removing the connector on the CRT base, monochrome
CRTb s have really thin glass at the neck and it is not hard to break. And
once a CRT reaches atmospheric pressure there is currently nothing that can be
done to repair it. But there is a group in Columbus Ohio that is working on
setting up a CRT rebuilding operation.
Matt

Post by Ian Finder
And I've learned this ECL display will be forever destined for the Sun
3/260 (at 1600x1200) as it is indeed single-sync. Bummer.
1) I have some sort of Extron ECL video converter in the garage, I'll

take

Post by Ian Finder
a closer look at this once the keyboard and mouse arrive (thanks, kind

list

Post by Ian Finder
member!) and report back.
2) Failing that, I can switch the framebuffer to TTL and rig up my own
adapter.
I have plenty of (color) monitors that will handle the resolution and
timings in question- and I'm quite pleased to have found the requisite
matching input devices. :)
Perhaps the correct monitor will turn up eventually...
- Ian

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