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[rescue] emacs for sunos 4.1.4
john
2018-05-29 02:27:26 UTC
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I can't remember if emacs came on the CD, assume it didn't. so since i
have this crackerjack sparc10, up and running with some disk space,
where should I look for a suitable emacs?


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Toby Thain
2018-05-29 02:52:23 UTC
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Post by john
I can't remember if emacs came on the CD, assume it didn't. so since i
have this crackerjack sparc10, up and running with some disk space,
where should I look for a suitable emacs?
Rarely has the adjective 'crackerjack' been so apropos.
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Richard
2018-05-29 02:55:38 UTC
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$man -k crackerjack
No manual entry for crackerjack
$


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Post by john
I can't remember if emacs came on the CD, assume it didn't. so since i
have this crackerjack sparc10, up and running with some disk space,
where should I look for a suitable emacs?
Rarely has the adjective 'crackerjack' been so apropos.
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Richard
2018-05-29 02:54:07 UTC
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Hi

I would probably compile from source, fix dependencies etc... you might need
to go an older version as newer versions of some applications have more modern
dependencies - never tried for emacs so cant say. Yes I am in the VI camp
*dont shoot me*.

If you dont already have them you may also need to get build tools
(make,gcc,etc..) built first..

Either way I think you just found a reason to warm up the CPUs some more....

Have fun

Richard

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I can't remember if emacs came on the CD, assume it didn't. so since i have
this crackerjack sparc10, up and running with some disk space, where should I
look for a suitable emacs?
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Doug McIntyre
2018-05-29 02:59:56 UTC
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Post by john
I can't remember if emacs came on the CD, assume it didn't. so since i
have this crackerjack sparc10, up and running with some disk space,
where should I look for a suitable emacs?
No, Sun didn't do freeware releases for SunOS v4.1.4.

It would probably be best to compile from source.

Assuming you have a gcc bootstraped up from the pre-K&R compiler that
was included to build the kernel, or you have the appropriate Sun
Workshop compilers installed..

I'd head over to ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/ and find something old
and apropos to the era, like Emacs 21, before the cleaned up all the
ancient Unix code out. It compiles pretty readily, although
bootstrapping emacs itself has all the hoary details abstracted out
for you assuming you are on a supported system. SunOS v4 in the '90s
was definately still a supported system.
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Stefan Skoglund
2018-05-29 05:08:49 UTC
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I Think you need to install gcc (2.7.2) . Which could require an older
version at bootstrAp stage. Emacs is fairly easy.
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Sandwich Maker
2018-05-29 11:44:10 UTC
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" From: Doug McIntyre <***@geeks.org>
"
" On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:27:26PM -0400, john wrote:
" > I can't remember if emacs came on the CD, assume it didn't. so since i
" > have this crackerjack sparc10, up and running with some disk space,
" > where should I look for a suitable emacs?
"
" No, Sun didn't do freeware releases for SunOS v4.1.4.
"
" It would probably be best to compile from source.
"
" Assuming you have a gcc bootstraped up from the pre-K&R compiler that
" was included to build the kernel, or you have the appropriate Sun
" Workshop compilers installed..

having learned my unix at at&t, i'm a vi person. i tried emacs but
couldn't get my head around it, and after 3+ decades i can fly vi in
my sleep. ksh in vi-mode has been my shell ever since i learned that
ksh86 had a cle.

but back in the mid '90s i was at a 4.1.4 shop, with both emacs and
xemacs installed, and i'm pretty sure i compiled them both with the
sunos compiler. i don't think we even had gcc installed.

no flicker as to what versions - save that i kept current - but i do
recall that one [probably xemacs as it was newer] had a massive bug
that if triggered would malloc *all* your vm.
--
another memory of that shop - that's also where i first encountered
jumpstart. that was fun.
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Doug McIntyre
2018-05-29 12:14:03 UTC
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Post by Sandwich Maker
" Assuming you have a gcc bootstraped up from the pre-K&R compiler that
" was included to build the kernel, or you have the appropriate Sun
" Workshop compilers installed..
but back in the mid '90s i was at a 4.1.4 shop, with both emacs and
xemacs installed, and i'm pretty sure i compiled them both with the
sunos compiler. i don't think we even had gcc installed.
Compiling emacs should work with the approprate Sun Workshop compiler
installed (and licensed). The pre-K&R compiler that ships with the OS
is not good enough. gcc (of appropriate vintage) was able to
bootstrap itself using it and is what we used all the time.

SunOS v4.1.4 was one of the primary platforms that everything conformed to.
Everything of appropriate vintage should compile out-of-the box. You
shouldn't have to do much to make it work.
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Chris Hanson
2018-05-30 01:51:22 UTC
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Post by Doug McIntyre
The pre-K&R compiler
I think you mean the pre-ANSI compiler, i.e. the K&R-only compiler.

-- Chris
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Doug McIntyre
2018-05-30 03:46:22 UTC
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Post by Chris Hanson
Post by Doug McIntyre
The pre-K&R compiler
I think you mean the pre-ANSI compiler, i.e. the K&R-only compiler.
Heh, yeah, since K&R 1st edition came out in what, 1978?

K&R compiler with some near-ANSI extensions, but not quite.
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