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[rescue] Aviator
john
2017-10-12 21:15:22 UTC
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I'm home after two days in airplanes - phooey on aviating.

I found the CDROM, loaded it up in my SPARCstation 10 with GX Frame
buffer and it ran.B the README gives addresses to buy passwords.B I
can't remember if we ever had one.B We had a customer who wanted to
develop a helicopter simulator (what he wanted would have been called a
trainer in the simulation industry - no physical movement but what you
would on the screen might accurate show what you'd see out the front if
you depending on the physics of the machine simulated and what you'd
done with the controls.B This never came to anything when customer began
to grasp what it was going to cost to do this even getting a good deal on.

in any case you get a heads-up display and a number of terrain files and
physics for 4 planes, including a 727 and an F18.B I can vaguely
remember that we had it set up at one time so that we could have
dogfights over the network, so we must have had passwords.

I suppose I could make some ISO CD copies of what I have.B the
installation is pretty simple.B You mount -r /dev/sr0 /mnt then go to
/mnt/etc and run the install program.B I have no idea whether I can make
a CD which my Sun can read. I have a matsushita (Panasonic) drive in the
stack next to my machine. along with the two tape drives. It is probably
20 years old and I doubt if it can read a current -R CD.

Anyone want to pursue this?

john ferguson
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Mouse
2017-10-12 21:28:00 UTC
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Post by john
I'm home after two days in airplanes - phooey on aviating.
I agree. (Except in simulation. :-)
Post by john
I found the CDROM, loaded it up in my SPARCstation 10 with GX Frame
buffer and it ran. [...]
If it puts up a non-prerendered display, even a relatively simple one,
it probably will be good enough for my purposes.
Post by john
I suppose I could make some ISO CD copies of what I have.B the
installation is pretty simple.B You mount -r /dev/sr0 /mnt then go
to /mnt/etc and run the install program.B I have no idea whether I
can make a CD which my Sun can read.
I'd be just as happy to get a copy of the bits; if it turns out I need
a burnt CD I can burn my own easily enough, and it's probably easier to
send a softcopy than to send a physical artifact.

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Richard
2017-10-12 21:34:06 UTC
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Hi there

Great find!

I am with mouse and would be interested in a tar file, dd image, or ISO image
of the CD contents. FTP is our friend :-)

If it installs off of the mount as you indicate then a tar file will more than
likely just work.

Richard

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Post by Mouse
Post by john
I'm home after two days in airplanes - phooey on aviating.
I agree. (Except in simulation. :-)
Post by john
I found the CDROM, loaded it up in my SPARCstation 10 with GX Frame
buffer and it ran. [...]
If it puts up a non-prerendered display, even a relatively simple one,
it probably will be good enough for my purposes.
Post by john
I suppose I could make some ISO CD copies of what I have.B the
installation is pretty simple.B You mount -r /dev/sr0 /mnt then go
to /mnt/etc and run the install program.B I have no idea whether I
can make a CD which my Sun can read.
I'd be just as happy to get a copy of the bits; if it turns out I need
a burnt CD I can burn my own easily enough, and it's probably easier to
send a softcopy than to send a physical artifact.
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Lionel Peterson
2017-10-12 23:50:09 UTC
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Could someone make a video of the simulation and post it somewhere public like
YouTube?

Lionel
Post by Richard
Hi there
Great find!
I am with mouse and would be interested in a tar file, dd image, or ISO image
of the CD contents. FTP is our friend :-)
If it installs off of the mount as you indicate then a tar file will more than
likely just work.
Richard
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Post by Mouse
Post by john
I'm home after two days in airplanes - phooey on aviating.
I agree. (Except in simulation. :-)
Post by john
I found the CDROM, loaded it up in my SPARCstation 10 with GX Frame
buffer and it ran. [...]
If it puts up a non-prerendered display, even a relatively simple one,
it probably will be good enough for my purposes.
Post by john
I suppose I could make some ISO CD copies of what I have.B the
installation is pretty simple.B You mount -r /dev/sr0 /mnt then go
to /mnt/etc and run the install program.B I have no idea whether I
can make a CD which my Sun can read.
I'd be just as happy to get a copy of the bits; if it turns out I need
a burnt CD I can burn my own easily enough, and it's probably easier to
send a softcopy than to send a physical artifact.
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Mauricio Tavares
2017-10-13 01:00:23 UTC
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Post by Richard
Hi there
Great find!
I am with mouse and would be interested in a tar file, dd image, or ISO image
of the CD contents. FTP is our friend :-)
Add me to the list! Would give me an excuse to run my v210.
Post by Richard
If it installs off of the mount as you indicate then a tar file will more than
likely just work.
Richard
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Post by Mouse
Post by john
I'm home after two days in airplanes - phooey on aviating.
I agree. (Except in simulation. :-)
Post by john
I found the CDROM, loaded it up in my SPARCstation 10 with GX Frame
buffer and it ran. [...]
If it puts up a non-prerendered display, even a relatively simple one,
it probably will be good enough for my purposes.
Post by john
I suppose I could make some ISO CD copies of what I have.B the
installation is pretty simple.B You mount -r /dev/sr0 /mnt then go
to /mnt/etc and run the install program.B I have no idea whether I
can make a CD which my Sun can read.
I'd be just as happy to get a copy of the bits; if it turns out I need
a burnt CD I can burn my own easily enough, and it's probably easier to
send a softcopy than to send a physical artifact.
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Stefan Skoglund
2017-10-13 12:16:49 UTC
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Post by Richard
Hi there
Great find!
I am with mouse and would be interested in a tar file, dd image, or ISO image
of the CD contents. FTP is our friend :-)
If it installs off of the mount as you indicate then a tar file will more than
likely just work.
Do a SS 10 30 Mhz have enough horsepower ?

Aviator could be what is needed for me to fix an geriatric SS10....
(PROM, keyboard, mouse, Sun-VGA/DVI is needed , i do have some SCSI-2
disks.)

Hmm, the machine is cg6 for now...
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Carl R. Friend
2017-10-13 00:08:42 UTC
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Post by john
I'm home after two days in airplanes - phooey on aviating.
In the first-person sense in a commercial setting, I completely
concur. However, in simulation, all bets are off.
Post by john
in any case you get a heads-up display and a number of terrain files and
physics for 4 planes, including a 727 and an F18.BB I can vaguely
remember that we had it set up at one time so that we could have
dogfights over the network, so we must have had passwords.
How does this compare to the SGI demo bits of "flight" and "dog"?
I've got that running on some of my elder SGI gear and it gives me
great delight to this day.

Cheers!
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john
2017-10-13 17:16:54 UTC
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Aviator ran fine on a Sparc2 and an IPX. I don't have either one any
more so can't compare.B The performance issue is with updating terrain.B
the terrain files are not very detailed so I wouldn't expect any
performance issues with anything sparc2 on.B I'm turning the garage
upside down trying to find the printed manual in which I may have
written passwords.B It could be that they were hostid linked, but not
sure.B I'd asked on an earlier note if anyone could recommend an ftp
site I could upload the tar file to.B obviously it will be smaller than
630 mB, but I haven't gotten chance to do it yet.


john ferguson
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