[rescue] [nifty] FML

[Dave McGuire]

For DNS, I went with Amazon's Route 53, mainly to save money. Costs $2
plus a few pennies a month, plus there is a full API, and the
recommended utility for it imports zone files.
I sometimes think of switching to an email service, but I haven't found
any compelling.
For home use, I've been meaning to replace my t1-105/netbsd/bind setup
with dnsmasq (it maybe still bind) on Ubuntu on a Dell r200. The t1 has
bad nics, so I'm trying to feel good about recycling it instead of
storing it. The major short coming of the old setup is bad ipv6 support.

I hate to throw a monkey wrench into your feeling good about recycling
it, but...I have a stack of brand new CP1600 boards, the core of the T1,
and I'd be happy to send you one. Or a couple. That'd fix your
interfaces. ;)

-Dave

[Mark Linimon]

Post by Dave McGuire
I hate to throw a monkey wrench into your feeling good about recycling
it, but...I have a stack of brand new CP1600 boards, the core of the T1,
and I'd be happy to send you one.

I have a stack of Netra T1s that are destined for scrap as well. If
someone wants some pieces they should go ahead and say so in the next
month or so.

I would probably let the V210s and V240s go for "pay shipping plus enough
for a 6-pack".

One of these days I'm really going to declutter like I've been saying ...

mcl
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[Carl R. Friend]

Post by Mark Linimon
I have a stack of Netra T1s that are destined for scrap as well. If
someone wants some pieces they should go ahead and say so in the next
month or so.

And where might these be located? I'm having problems with a couple
of mine and could use a spare or two...

Post by Mark Linimon
I would probably let the V210s and V240s go for "pay shipping plus enough
for a 6-pack".

240s are sweet machines! I worked with those a few years ago and
loved 'em. They're loud, though, for a dwelling.

[Phil Stracchino]

Post by Carl R. Friend
240s are sweet machines! I worked with those a few years ago and
loved 'em. They're loud, though, for a dwelling.

My X4540 is by no means quiet, but neither it nor my two Dell R610s are
anywhere near as obtrusively noisy as the two V210s or the X2200M2 I
used to run before the R610s. The R610s whine a little. The X4540 is
loud when you're standing next to it, but pretty quiet from the other
side of a glass door considering the volume of air it's driving. The
V210s and the X2200M2 *SCREAMED* - and they shut themselves down
automatically if the air temperature dropped below 5B0C. The X4540
doesn't do that.

(The X2200M2 is still in the rack, it's just powered down... Cory has
the V210s now.)

[Jerry Kemp]

that is odd regarding the x2200m2's.

I have (2) of them now in one of my spare bedroom/computer rooms. They aren't
silent, but *very* tolerable.

Someone else had commented on V210's and V240's. My personal observations is
that neither is quiet, but the 1U V210 systems were significantly louder than
the V240's. More room for larger fans is my assumption. YMMV.

OTOH, I was the guy that purchased Mr. Bill's T1000, and that is a *loud* beast.

If I understand correctly, hosting was lost, and Mr. Bill was forced to move all
the mailing list to a system in his home on a business class line, but was never
able deal with the noise from the T1000.

I also have a T2000, and it is significantly quieter than the T1000. Currently,
I rarely power up the T1000 due to the noise.

Earlier in the year, I had acquired an older & larger Sun computer. If I am
unable to get that system/system board to power up, my plan may be to pull the
system board from the T1000 1U case, retrofit it into the larger case, and
replace the existing/small/very fast/noisy cooling fans with
larger/slower/quieter ones.

Have to see how that plays out.

Jerry

Post by Phil Stracchino

Post by Carl R. Friend
240s are sweet machines! I worked with those a few years ago and
loved 'em. They're loud, though, for a dwelling.

My X4540 is by no means quiet, but neither it nor my two Dell R610s are
anywhere near as obtrusively noisy as the two V210s or the X2200M2 I
used to run before the R610s. The R610s whine a little. The X4540 is
loud when you're standing next to it, but pretty quiet from the other
side of a glass door considering the volume of air it's driving. The
V210s and the X2200M2 *SCREAMED* - and they shut themselves down
automatically if the air temperature dropped below 5B0C. The X4540
doesn't do that.
(The X2200M2 is still in the rack, it's just powered down... Cory has
the V210s now.)

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[Mark Linimon]

Post by Carl R. Friend
And where might these be located? I'm having problems with a couple
of mine and could use a spare or two...

Austin, Texas, USA.

mcl
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[Joshua D. Boyd]

Post by Carl R. Friend
240s are sweet machines! I worked with those a few years ago and
loved 'em. They're loud, though, for a dwelling.

My v240 is a lot quieter than the 1u servers I have in the basement, fwiw. I'm
thinking future upgrades should go back to 2u systems.
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[Lionel Peterson]

Both the VT240 and T52XX (don't remember, 2U sever) were too loud to leave
running in my garage 24x7 - sitting inside the house with nothing on (no
TV/Radio) you could hear the fans.

So I built up a couple budget servers to run 24x7, and I couldn't be happier.
They are silent, have 8 'threads' (AMD FX-8320e), and with the cheap MB I also
picked up the MB, CPU were $40 AR. Throw spare DDR3 Ram in each box, a large
SATA HD (2TB), a cheap 120G SSD ($40) in a cheap Antec case I had lying around
with a silent 500w PS and a second NIC and we're off to the races!

Power consumption is low (95w CPU) and the boxes are silent!

I like this AMD CPU, it was a great deal at microcenter.com, and I'd highly
recommend it for anyone considering a 'ghetto' VM server - they run Windows
2016 beautifully (and I assume other OSes as well, I'm running Windows Server
2016 Datacenter Eval on them now, hosting Linux appliances under Hyper-V), and
if you've got SATA drives and DDR3 memory to spare, it can be a minimal cost
build. The board has 6x SATA2 ports and 4x DIMM slots.

Links:

MB:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/465214/M5A78L-M_Plus-USB3_AM3_mATX_AMD_Mot
herboard

CPU:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/486115/FX_8320E_Black_Edition_Vishera_32_G
Hz_8_Core_AM3_Boxed_Processor

When I bought it there was a $40 rebate on the CPU, a $10 rebate on MB, and a
$30 'bundle' discount - the CPU rebate appears to be gone...

It's a crappy CPU, the MB is nothing special, but as a box running in the
garage, these pieces at those prices worked out great for me. I'd have a hard
time finding an Intel CPU with that many threads (incl. HyperThreads) and MB
for anything near that price. For those so motivated, this board/CPUcan be
easily overclocked - the CPU is unlocked, and the MB supports easy OC,
apparently 4.0 GHz was pretty easy to achieve on OEM cooling fan.

Lionel

Post by Joshua D. Boyd

Post by Carl R. Friend
240s are sweet machines! I worked with those a few years ago and
loved 'em. They're loud, though, for a dwelling.

My v240 is a lot quieter than the 1u servers I have in the basement, fwiw. I'm
thinking future upgrades should go back to 2u systems.
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[Jerry Kemp]

Hello Lionel,

If I recall correctly, you had picked up a T5xxx series box for a pretty good
price, then it seemed you had some HW problem with it, where you would need to
go back to the seller.

What was the story on that? Did the seller fix you up? Or trade out broken HW?

Jerry

Post by Lionel Peterson
Both the VT240 and T52XX (don't remember, 2U sever) were too loud to leave
running in my garage 24x7 - sitting inside the house with nothing on (no
TV/Radio) you could hear the fans.

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[Dave McGuire]

Post by Lionel Peterson
Both the VT240 and T52XX (don't remember, 2U sever) were too loud to leave

VT240? Freudian slip? B-)

-Dave

[Cory Smelosky]

I was gonna say; something is wrong with your VT240 if itbs that loud ;)

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Post by Dave McGuire

Post by Lionel Peterson
Both the VT240 and T52XX (don't remember, 2U sever) were too loud to leave

VT240? Freudian slip? B-)
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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