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IRIX and USB
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Kevin
2005-01-13 19:42:06 UTC
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I've got an Octane, to which i would like to add USB ports. Is
this just a matter of getting the PCI cage and a USB PCI card? I
would assume that i would need to get a card supported under IRIX
6.9.2x. Anyone know what cards are supported?

I would like to be able to use my USB flash drive and sync my USB
palm phone. The phone thing i'm pretty sure will work but does
anyone know if IRIX supports removable USB storage devices?

Thank,
/KRM
Joshua Boyd
2005-01-13 21:13:06 UTC
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Post by Kevin
I've got an Octane, to which i would like to add USB ports. Is
this just a matter of getting the PCI cage and a USB PCI card? I
would assume that i would need to get a card supported under IRIX
6.9.2x. Anyone know what cards are supported?
I would like to be able to use my USB flash drive and sync my USB
palm phone. The phone thing i'm pretty sure will work but does
anyone know if IRIX supports removable USB storage devices?
There are absolutely no reports of USB working on anything less than
Origin 3 derived machines (Fuel, Tezro, Orgin 3x0(0)s, Onyx3x0(0)s), and
then, only for keyboard, mouse, and a sound adapter on fuels.

If you could find what chipset they use, you could try to find a PCI
card that has the same chipset. Then you might have to hack the driver
a bit (to recognize the PCI card as belonging to that drive, and
changing devices paths around as is needed for the Firewire cards in
Octanes). Maybe I make this sound hard, but it might not really be that
bad if you follow the DM10 clone hacking as a guideline.

Then, after you do that, apparently the infrastructure isn't there to do
much. But, if you feel like writing drivers... Maybe port a libusb for
things that can be done from userland. That should make pilot-link
happy (assuming that you kept you libusb happy). Hack up a SCSI device
driver for flash storage, etc.

No where near as elegent a solution, but I just have a Sun on the
network with USB2.0 card, and I use that for my USB flash card. I have
my palm pilot connected to a linux machine, but I keep meaning to try it
on the Sun as well.

BTW, do you use your palm on linux? If so, what GUI? I'm having
trouble getting the old jpilot to work with USB devices. I don't really
want to have to use Evolution or the Gnome-pilot stuff.
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Kevin
2005-01-13 20:44:16 UTC
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Given that this was something i came up with off the top of my
head last night and not anything critical, i think i'll ditch the
idea. For some reason, i thought people had added USB cards to
Octanes before, but i was probably mixing it up in my head with
the 1394 stuff.

I love my Octane but i am tempted to swap back to the linux
workstation as my main box these days. I've been suing the
Octane for about two years now, but if i swapped back to my linux
box i could have:

1. easy access to my flash drive
2. 1easy Palm access (without having to buy a serial cable from
Treo)
3. i could use my recently acquired Wacom tablet
4. i could use the 24" SGI monitor at a decent resolution
5. i could utilize the three SATA drives (although these get used
enough via NFS so i guess this one doesn't count)

All very tempting..... then again, it would probably all get
moved downstairs again the first time some PC BS started showing
up... nvidia drivers crashing, CPU fans rattling and burning out,
BIOS deciding that all of the sudden there are no hard drives in
the system..... SCREW IT. I'm sticking with my trusty Octane :)

As for the Palm thing, i have used previous Palm phones on linux
and IRIX with absolutely no issues using jpilot as the front-end
GUI, but all of those previous ones were serial based not USB.

I have done some data backups using pilot-link and some USB Palms
before under linux with no problems. I could be wrong, but
doesn't jpilot use pilot-link for all it's communications? I
don't really see how the GUI would affect communications, USB,
serial or otherwise...

Exactly what issue are you having with jpilot and USB stuff?

/KRM

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:13:06 -0500
Post by Joshua Boyd
BTW, do you use your palm on linux? If so, what GUI? I'm
having trouble getting the old jpilot to work with USB devices.
I don't really
want to have to use Evolution or the Gnome-pilot stuff.
Joshua Boyd
2005-01-14 16:29:46 UTC
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Post by Kevin
Given that this was something i came up with off the top of my
head last night and not anything critical, i think i'll ditch the
idea. For some reason, i thought people had added USB cards to
Octanes before, but i was probably mixing it up in my head with
the 1394 stuff.
I love my Octane but i am tempted to swap back to the linux
workstation as my main box these days. I've been suing the
Octane for about two years now, but if i swapped back to my linux
1. easy access to my flash drive
2. 1easy Palm access (without having to buy a serial cable from
Treo)
3. i could use my recently acquired Wacom tablet
4. i could use the 24" SGI monitor at a decent resolution
5. i could utilize the three SATA drives (although these get used
enough via NFS so i guess this one doesn't count)
All of those are solvable except #3 with a little money and/or shell
wizardry.

1 and 2 can be done with scripts and a handy U5 with USB card (or PC
running linux).

4 can be done with a better graphics card. MXE maybe? V8 maybe? If you
must have 2k, obviously something other than an affordable Octane
upgrade would be needed. Perhaps an affordable Onyx IR instead? I kid.

5 can be done with NFS as you mention. Alternatively, you use FC-AL and
a PC running FreeBSD with the SATA drives and a a QLogic 2300 FC card.
Thus you can use the FreeBSD machine as a hardware raid unit (I haven't
tried this, only seen that FreeBSD supports FC-AL target mode, and have
heard of people using FreeBSD as a U160 Hardware RAID).

However, a simpler and more realistic way to fufill wish number 5 is via
Acard AEC-7730s. Again, I haven't tried these, but their older IDE
cousins work well. These cards are SATA->SCSI converters. Attach and
your SATA drive looks to the Octane like a U2W or U160 drive (I'd have
to double check to see which it is).
Post by Kevin
All very tempting..... then again, it would probably all get
moved downstairs again the first time some PC BS started showing
up... nvidia drivers crashing, CPU fans rattling and burning out,
BIOS deciding that all of the sudden there are no hard drives in
the system..... SCREW IT. I'm sticking with my trusty Octane :)
PCI Sun. A cheap simple way to get the geegaws working next to the
Octane. Then, the network is your friend. Why should you ever have to
realize that they aren't directly connected?
Post by Kevin
I have done some data backups using pilot-link and some USB Palms
before under linux with no problems. I could be wrong, but
doesn't jpilot use pilot-link for all it's communications? I
don't really see how the GUI would affect communications, USB,
serial or otherwise...
Exactly what issue are you having with jpilot and USB stuff?
jpilot didn't want to accept /dev/ttyUSB1. However, I made /dev/pilot a
symlink to /dev/ttyUSB1, and then set jpilot to use /dev/pilot, and
jpilot was happy. Only potential problem is that sometimes I need
/dev/ttyUSB3 instead of /dev/ttyUSB1.
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Darryl Barile
2005-03-07 06:44:50 UTC
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OK....

It's late at night here on the east coast so please forgive any spelling
errors

Up for grabs is an SGI R4400-150 VGXT.

It's big (but I bet you know it).

I received this several years ago in an odd sort of trade with the intention
of
putting it back into operation.

I'll spare you the long story but suffice it to say that I can no longer
hold on to it.

Comes with a power cable for a standard 110V outlet.

I am located in/near Raleigh, NC. Free to pic up.

Let me know off list if you are interested

I can provides some pics or further details if you like.

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Mark Price
2005-03-07 13:01:30 UTC
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Hi,

Is this a Crimson? or thereabouts in size?

Mark
Post by Darryl Barile
OK....
It's late at night here on the east coast so please forgive any spelling
errors
Up for grabs is an SGI R4400-150 VGXT.
It's big (but I bet you know it).
I received this several years ago in an odd sort of trade with the intention
of
putting it back into operation.
I'll spare you the long story but suffice it to say that I can no longer
hold on to it.
Comes with a power cable for a standard 110V outlet.
I am located in/near Raleigh, NC. Free to pic up.
Let me know off list if you are interested
I can provides some pics or further details if you like.
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Jochen Kunz
2005-01-14 17:58:25 UTC
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Post by Kevin
4. i could use the 24" SGI monitor at a decent resolution
AFAIK all you need is a SSI / ESSI GFX to get 1600 x 1200 pixel...
At least the ESSI in my Octane offers 1600 x 1200 but I have no
reasonible monitor for this. So I stick to 1280 x 1024 dual head.
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Jochen

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